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Knob Creek Subgun Nationals 2013 Videos and Results

This years Subgun nations are over and it seems the “Killer Clown” stage designed by Paul Winters was a success. A big congratulations to Chris Hipes for his Top Gun award for pulling off a 105 second win with his Lage Manufacturing Max-31.

Here is a video of the winning run. The complete results are below:

Ladies
Last Name First Name Gun Caliber Class Score
1 Carrere Joyce Swed K 9mm Open Bolt/Optic Sights 137.09
2 Bryant Robin MP5 9mm Closed Bolt/Optic Sights 197.96
3 Holden Donna MP5 9mm Closed Bolt/Optic Sights 275.18
4 Jordan Deb Uzu 9mm Open Bolt/Optic Sights 277.15
5 Anderson Sandy M16 9mm Closed Bolt/Optic Sights 399.90


Closed Bolt, Iron Sights

Last Name First Name Gun Nomenclature Caliber Score
1 King Chase MP5 9mm 121.65
2 Carpenter Tom MP5 9mm 129.29
3 Hipes Austin Max 31 Lage 9mm 139.79
4 Kummer Mike Reising 9mm 170.56
5 Johnson Wes MP5 9mm 184.57
6 Parker Jeremy MP5 9mm 185.28
7 Baillie Joel MP5 9mm 190.29
8 Bryant Robby MP5 9mm 193.27
9 Myrang Folke MP5 9mm 205.54
10 Holden J.L. MP5 9mm 206.68
11 Norman Dennis M16 9mm 208.69
12 James Tom MP5 9mm 212.81
13 Quinn Richard MP5 9mm 214.54
14 Emery Bruce Max 31 Lage 9mm 217.93
15 Carrere Joe M16 9mm 221.03
16 Hahn Art MP5 9mm 229.07
17 Winthrop Michael AR45 45 ACP 236.77
18 Steedly George M16 9mm 246.83
19 Wiersbitzky Andreas MP5 9mm 249.6
20 Cheng Chris MP5 9mm 257.98
21 Ezendam Thomas Max 31 Lage 9mm 265.95
22 Krasnopolskiy Sergey Max 31 Lage 9mm 298.84
23 Schmidlin David MP5 9mm 308.88
24 Zegar Tim Reising 45 ACP 338.14
25 Dunham Douglas Reising 45 ACP 367.8
26 Griffin Brad M16 9mm 382.51
27 Zegar Terry Reising 45 ACP 429.73
28 Larin Alexey Max 31 Lage 9mm 487.86
29 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 9mm 517.86
30 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 9mm AD
31 Allen Daniel Max 31 Lage 9mm DQ


Closed Bolt, Optics Sights

Last Name First Name Gun Nomenclature Caliber Score
1 King Chase MP5 9mm 135.25
2 Ahola Tom MP5 9mm 135.62
3 Ditullio Dan MP5 9mm 138.96
4 Carpenter Tom MP5 9mm 139.2
5 Emery Bruce Max 31 Lage 9mm 139.32
6 Hipes Austin Max31 Lage 9mm 149.39
7 Quinn Richard MP5 9mm 159.28
8 Winthrop Michael AR45 45 ACP 163.11
9 Johnson Wes MP5 9mm 165.68
10 James Tom MP5 9mm 169.84
11 Baillie Joel MP5 9mm 173.15
12 Carrere Joe M16 9mm 173.2
13 Norman Dennis M16 9mm 174.91
14 Steedly George M16 9mm 179.85
15 Mentzel Frank MP5 9mm 182.42
16 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 9mm 183.18
17 Varner Ed MP5 9mm 187.69
18 Schmidlin David MP5 9mm 193.98
19 Essling Bill M16 9mm 206.39
20 Bryant Robby MP5 9mm 227.6
21 Holden J.L. MP5 9mm 229.1
22 Wiersbitzky Andreas MP5 9mm 259.96
23 Kummer Mike M16 9mm 284.7
24 MacFarlane Robert MP5 9mm 384.33
25 Dunham Douglas Reising 45 ACP 783.15
26 Allen Daniel Max 31 Lage 9mm 813.15
27 Griffin Brad M16 9mm 813.15
28 James Joshua KRISS Vector 45 ACP 813.15
29 Krasnopolskiy Sergey Max 31 Lage 9mm 813.15
30 Laub Pete M16 9mm 813.15
31 Parker Jeremy MP5 9mm 813.15
32 Larin Alexey Max 31 Lage 9mm 813.15
33 Sementuh Cory KRISS Vector 45 ACP 813.15
34 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 9mm AD

Open Bolt, Iron Sights
Last Name First Name Gun Nomenclature Caliber Score
1 Emery Bruce Mac 11 DF 9mm 113.84
2 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 9mm 133.21
3 Holden J.L. Thompson 45 ACP 133.43
4 Parker Jeremy Sterling Mk IV 9mm 146.7
5 Allen Daniel Max 31 Lage 9mm 150.28
6 James Tom Thompson 1928 45 ACP 152.69
7 Grocox Cain Sterling Mk IV 9mm 154.06
8 Norman Dennis M11 AA 9mm 155.22
9 Montgomery Ron Uzi 9mm 159.68
10 McKown Tony Uzi 9mm 163.77
11 Beck Jeff Beretta 38A 9mm 170.97
12 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 9mm 172.75
13 Hll Todd Max 11 K Lage 9mm 185.08
14 Carrere Joe Swed K 9mm 185.52
15 Hipes Austin Max 31 Lage 9mm 186.22
16 Cooper Steve Uzi 9mm 196.14
17 Schillig Ed Max 31 Lage 9mm 206.26
18 Carpenter Tom Uzi 9mm 210.7
19 King Chase Uzi 9mm 211.21
20 Bailey Joel Swed K 9mm 214.46
21 Furcsik Don Uzu 9mm 214.95
22 Russell Jeff Swed K 9mm 220.85
23 Kummer Mike MP40 9mm 251.54
24 Krasnopolskiy Sergey Mac 11 AMP 9mm 256.4
25 Wiersbitzky Andreas Uzi 9mm 267.65
26 Schmidlin David Thompson 45 ACP 273.86
27 Varner Ed MP40 9mm 279.12
28 Anderson John Swed K 9mm 293.69
29 Agee Jason Swed K 9mm 336.95
30 Ezendam Thomas Mac 11 AMP 9mm 338.22
31 Dunham Douglas Max 31 Lage 9mm 342.55
32 Bryant Robby Sterling 9mm 356.93
33 Poole Cameron Uzi 9mm 377.82
34 Church Dan Sten Mk lll 9mm 567.62
35 Biggar Ed M3A1 45 ACP AD
36 Winthrop Mike Spitfire 45 ACP AD
37 Reinhold Jim Uzi 9mm DNF
38 Larin Alexey Mac 11 AMP 9mm DNS

Open Bolt, Optic Sights

Last Name First Name Gun Nomenclature Caliber Score
1 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 9mm 105.26 Top Gun
2 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 9mm 110.39
3 Hipes Austin Max31 Lage 9mm 115.13
4 Emery Bruce Mac 11 DF 9mm 115.28
5 Norman Dennis M11 AA 9mm 122.69
6 Laub Pete S&W76 9mm 136.06
7 Winters Paul Thompson West Hurley 9mm 140.9
8 Carrere Joe Swed K 9mm 147.85
9 Hill Todd Max 11K Lage 9mm 148.7
10 Kummer Mike Uzi 9mm 161.48
11 Montgomery Ron Uzi 9mm 162.79
12 McKown Tony Uzi 9mm 165 visite site.26
13 Cooper Steve Mac 10 45 ACP 170.88
14 Ezendam Thomas Mac 11 AMP 9mm 171.05
15 James Tom Thompson 1928 45 ACP 181.06
16 Crawford Ryan Max 11 Lage 9mm 184.15
17 Schillig Ed Max 31 Lage 9mm 185.36
18 King Chase Uzi 9mm 185.39
19 Keith Davy Max 31 Lage 9mm 187.76
20 Matthews Ronnie Max 11 Lage 9mm 188.81
21 Winthrop Mike Spitfire 45 ACP 199.16
22 Reinhold Jim Uzi 9mm 204.26
23 Russell Jeff Swed K 9mm 231.49
24 Krasnopolskiy Sergey Mac 11 AMP 9mm 247.8
25 Bryant Robby Mac 10 9mm 252.31
26 Grocox Cain Uzi 9mm 253.99
27 Bailey Joel Swed K 9mm 259.46
28 Dunham Douglas Max 31 Lage 9mm 263.34
29 Rumaner Sean Max 11 Lage 9mm 322.23
30 Haynes Ken Max 11 Lage 9mm 331.84
31 Parker Jeremy Sterling Mk IV 9mm 366.22
32 Schillig Max Max 31 Lage 380 Auto 838.76
33 Wiersbitzky Andreas Sterling Mk IV 9mm 868.76
34 Larin Alexey Mac 11 AMP 9mm AD
35 Breneman Andrew Max 11 Lage 9mm AD

Fourth Annual Michigan State Subgun Match

Sean Callahan's hat at the 2011 MI state Subgun Match says it all.

The Black Creek Conservation Club is sponsoring the fourth annual Michigan state subgun competition in Mt. Pleasant Michigan Saturday August 10, 2013. The cost is $40 per shooter per run. There will be 5-6 COF’s per run. The match will be limited to thirty six (36) shooters on Saturday morning and thirty six (36) Saturday afternoon. Lunch and water are included. All proceeds go to the Black Creek Conservation Club. Your sign-up sheet and full payment secure you a spot. No refunds after July 1, 2013.

To request detailed information send e-mail to baillie@charter.net.Thanks

Know Your Limits – A concept in fun and skill

Know Your Limits

A few weeks ago I had ordered a scope mount from the good folks over at LaRue Tactical. When the order arrived there was a free  DVD of a precision rifle challenge that features some very nice LaRue guns.  One of the stages was called “Know Your Limit” where the shooters  could engage targets for bonus points.  There were three targets, each smaller than the previous. The trick was that  the shot difficulty increased as did the possible points you could get.  The key to be successful  was to quit and take your points before you missed. If you took a shot and missed you lost all of the points accumulated  for the entire stage.

This type of concept seems pretty straight forward for single shot rifles but I contemplated for a few days on how too  best implement this type of a scenario with submachine guns.  What I ended up doing is outlined below. It is by no means perfect but it is a good starting point and a positive proof of concept that this idea works for subguns.

The Course of Fire

The course of fire setup is deceivingly simple. Two pairs of hanging steel plates (approx 18″x24″) and a plate rack. The hanging steel pairs on at the ten and two positions and the plate rack at 12 o’clock.  Three no shoots are a few feet in front of the plate rack with holes cut out of them. The left most no-shoot has the entire A zone cut out of a standard IPSC target and through the hole you can see the left most plate (plate #1) . The middle no-shoot has the top half of the center A zone cut out and through it the third plate from the left is visible.  The right no-shoot has a small triangle that is centered in what would be one quarter of the A zone .  The distance from the shooter to the plate rack is about 10-12 yards and between the no-shoots the other three plates (#2,#4,#6) are visible.

On the buzzer The shooter must  engage all 4 hanging steel and targets # 2, 4, 6 on the plate rack (in any order the shooter chooses) and then the last shot(s) must pass through the hole in the no-shoot that corresponds with the “level” they are on. There are three levels, 1, 2 and 3.  Once the shooter completes a level successfully they can choose to either stop and take their points or they can continue on to the next level.  Each level has a par time that decreases as the levels go up.  If the shooters last shot is past the par time or the shooter hits a no-shoot they are done and loose ALL points earned.  If you fail on level 3 you loose the 20 seconds you had accumulated until that point.  Below are the level breakdowns of points, time and targets.

Level 1 Par time 20 seconds, Final Target = Left target,  Bonus time 10 seconds (total 10 seconds earned)

Level 2 Par time 15 seconds, Final Target = Middle target, Bonus time 10 seconds (total 20 seconds earned)

Level 3 Par time 10 seconds, Final Target = Right target,  Bonus time 15 seconds  (total 35 seconds)

Level 1 was designed so even the most novice of shooters could complete it and get the 10 second bonus. If a shooter were to complete all three levels they could earn 35 seconds in bonus time off their score for the day.  Out of 33 shooters for the day only two made it to level three and passed earning the full 35 second bonus.   Ten made it to level two and stopped to collect their 20 second bonus and five made it past level one and took 10 seconds  to play it safe.  That leaves seventeen shooters who  pushed their luck and  didn’t know their limits and either didn’t beat the par time or shot the no-shoots and failed.

Below is a video of the author shooting this course of fire and as you can tell by the comments from the peanut gallery behind me there was an incredible amount of ego bashing and urging by all parties trying to egg each shooter on past their limits. My limit for that day should have been the first two levels only. I pushed it and I paid the price with a big fat ZERO  for my score instead of the 20 seconds I had earned to that point. Out of the seven stages in this match I have to say that this one was one of the most fun. It was a challenge of both skill and discipline. In the video below there is a bit of a break between level two and level three as I shot steel to see where  I was hitting.  As the coordinator for this match I wasn’t competing for score since I had prior knowledge of the blind stage and I was demonstrating for the squad how to shoot the stage. As you can see it didn’t help me 🙂 Anyway I hope others who view this can see the many possibilities in this concept and I look forward to seeing what others can do with it.

 

Knob Creek Fall 2012 Results & Videos

The 2012 Knob Creek Subgun National competition is now completed. Richard Lage took top honors with his Max-31 in 125,76 seconds in the open bolt with optics class. Very few shooters were able to complete this course of fire without penalties. The bar has been set high by match Director Paul Winters for expectations on what to be prepared for at this bi-annual event. This course of fire challenged all who shot it and the videos tell the whole story much better than I ever could. Flying cans, no-shoot swinging targets and tiny targets at distance were only a few of the obstacles thrown at shooters during this event.

Ladies

Last Name First Name Gun Class Score
1 Carrere Joyce Swedish K Open Bolt/Optic Sights 203.65
2 Bryant Robin MP5 Closed Bolt/Iron Sights 240.80
Carrere Joyce Swedish K Open Bolt/Iron Sights 249.66
Bryant Robin MP5 Closed Bolt/Optic Sights 250.53
3 Jordan Deb Uzi Open Bolt/Optic Sights 437.50
4 Grocox Amy Uzi Open Bolt/Optic Sights 545.40
Bryant Robin Sterling Open Bolt/Optic Sights 575.40
Bryant Robin Sterling Open Bolt/Iron Sights 999.00

 

Open Bolt/Optic Sights

Last Name First Name Gun Score
1 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 125.76 (TOP GUN)
2 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 145.96
3 Louis Todd Uzi 146.90
4 Allen Daniel Max 31 Lage 155.41
5 Sawyer Samantha M11 172.94
6 Tapar Paul Max 31 Lage 176.70
7 James Tom Uzi 181.76
8 Montgomery Ron Uzi 184.21
9 Carrere Joe, Sr Swedish K 184.31
10 Parker Jeremy Sterling Mark IV 188.82
11 White Joe M11 190.25
12 Ezendam Thomas Max 31 Lage 199.79
13 Sawyer MG Sterling 203.57
14 Hill Todd Max11K Lage 215.50
15 Hipes Austin Max 31 Lage 219.97
16 Laub Pete S&W 76 228.52
17 Phillips Chuck Sterling 229.50
18 Russell Jeff Swedish K 231.56
19 Baillie Joel Swedish K 234.48
20 Wiersbitzky Andreas Sterling 237.15
21 Ottoni Leo Swedish K 243.90
22 Tice George Swedish K 254.10
23 Emery Bruce Swedish K 265.98
24 Pandiscia Brian Max 11 Lage SWD 274.19
25 Asnip Andrew Sterling 290.63
26 Dunham Douglas Max 31 Lage 356.58
27 Grocox Cain Uzi 377.44
28 Bryant Robby Mac10 381.56
29 Crawford Ryan M11 388.10
30 Winthrop Michael Spitfire 416.55
31 Markovcy Mike Mac10 446.15
32 Mitchell Cameron BRP STG-34K 446.15
33 Schillig Edward Max 31 Lage DQ

 

Open Bolt/Iron Sights

Last Name First Name Gun Score
1 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 189.77
2 Holden JL Thompson 190.57
3 Markovcy Mike Uzi 198.72
4 Montgomery Ron Uzi 203.45
5 Louis Todd Uzi 209.08
6 Parker Jeremy Sterling 214.31
7 Phillips Chuck Sterling 216.55
8 James Tom Uzi 217.13
9 Hill Todd Max11K Lage 219.19
10 Sawyer MG Sten 220.72
11 Carpenter Tom Uzi 228.38
12 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 229.98
13 Kumer Mike M3 237.84
14 Baillie Joel Swedish K 242.89
15 Montgomery Andy Sterling 245.33
16 Reinhold Jim Uzi 251.45
17 Asnip Andrew Sterling 258.74
18 Mendenhall Monty Beretta 1938 275.41
19 Winthrop Michael Spitfire 276.85
20 Ottoni Leo Swedish K 286.00
21 Sawyer Samantha Port Said 288.68
22 Grocox Cain Uzi 290.80
23 Emery Bruce Swedish K 297.70
24 MacFarlane Robert Uzi 314.98
25 Carrere Joe, Sr Swedish K 315.38
26 Roberts CJ Sterling Mark IV 316.75
27 Childs Nick Thompson 316.91
28 Hipes Austin Max 31 Lage 318.14
29 Norman Dennis M11 319.84
30 Schillig Edward Max 31 Lage 320.20
31 Bryant Robby Sterling 320.42
32 Wiersbitzky Andreas Uzi 340.75
33 Dunham Douglas Max 31 Lage 346.07
34 Russell Jeff Swedish K 354.71
35 Laub Pete S&W 76 362.48
36 Allen Daniel Max 31 Lage 380.10
37 Ezendam Thomas Max 31 Lage 404.75
38 Callahan Michael Thompson 486.70
39 Winters Rick Thompson 28A1 699.73
40 Beck Jeff Beretta 38A 729:73
41 Crawford Ryan M11 729:74
42 Haynes Ken M11 729:75
43 Tice George Swedish K 729:76
44 Matthews Ronnie M11 AD
45 Kolodziej John M11 Soumi AD

 

Closed Bolt/Optic Sights

Last Name First Name Gun Score
1 Holden JL MP5 136.98
2 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 158.26
3 White Joe M11 Lage 163.96
4 Allen Daniel Max 31 Lage 165.98
5 Phillips Chuck MP5 171.94
6 Bryant Robby MP5 186.43
7 Carpenter Tom MP5 186.75
8 Sawyer MG M11 187.91
9 King Chase MP5 188.11
10 Parker Jeremy MP5 195.01
11 Reinhold Jim M16 211.88
12 Wiersbitzky Andreas MP5 212.25
13 Markovcy Mike MP5 213.48
14 Johnson Wes MP5 214.65
15 Ezendam Thomas Max 31 Lage 219.52
16 Luttke Brian MP5 232.99
17 Herber Mark MP5 236.40
18 Norman Dennis M16 247.81
19 Stowe Richard, Jr M16 252.30
20 James Tom MP5 255.91
21 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 258.14
22 Louis Todd MP5 259.56
23 Varner Ed MP5 263.94
24 Hipes Austin Max 31 Lage 266.20
25 Holden Terry MP5 280.50
26 Laub Pete M16 282.79
27 Erickson John M16 319.69
28 Stowe Richard M16 319.72
29 Baillie Joel MP5 328.94
30 Steedly George M16 374.80
31 Carrere Joe, Sr M16 591.65
32 Dunham Douglas Max 31 Lage 621.65
33 Emery Bruce Max 31 Lage 621.65
34 Hineline David M16 621.65
35 Tapar Paul Max 31 Lage 621.65
36 Winthrop Michael AR45 621.65
37 Sawyer Samantha Max 31 Lage AD

 

Closed Bolt/Iron Sights

Last Name First Name Gun Score
1 Carpenter Tom MP5 162.10
2 Parker Jeremy MP5 176.79
3 Markovcy Mike MP5 196.05
4 Norman Dennis M16 223.41
5 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 223.42
6 Holden JL MP5 225.56
7 Herber Mark MP5 229.80
8 Phillips Chuck MP5 234.60
9 MacFarlane Robert MP5 248.85
10 James Tom MP5 259.04
11 Kumer Mike Reising 264.95
12 Sawyer Samantha Max 31 Lage 272.41
13 Wiersbitzky Andreas MP5 293.11
14 Roberts CJ MP5 299.02
15 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 308.40
16 Keith Davy MP5 324.44
17 King Chase MP5 330.08
18 Bryant Robby MP5 362.58
19 Dobbins Hugh MP5 376.44
20 Baillie Joel MP5 427.33
21 Carrere Joe, Sr M16 640.83
22 Allen Daniel Max 31 Lage 670.83
23 Emery Bruce Max 31 Lage 670.83
24 Hipes Austin Max 31 Lage 670.83
25 Steedly George M16 670.83
26 Winthrop Michael AR45 670.83
27 Dunham Douglas Max 31 Lage 670.83
28 Johnson Wes MP5 DQ
29 Sawyer MG M11 Lage DQ

 

2012 Michigan State Subgun Match Results & Videos

2012 Michigan State subgun Championship winners
Todd, Amy, Garrett, Kat and Bruce with their trophies

The third annual MI State Sub-machine Gun Competition has just wrapped up on Saturday 8-11-2012. Congratulations to the winners and to all of the staff and competitors who make this a very successful event. The Full results with errors and raw time are in PDF files below. The fast time on each stage has been highlighted. Yellow for optics , blue for iron sights.

2012 MI State Subgun Results Ordered By time

2012 MI subgun results ordered by class

Optic Sights
Place Score Shooter Gun
1 143.76 Jackson, Garrett M11 – Fastest TIME
2 148.59 Emery, Bruce Max 11
3 149.45 L, Todd Uzi
4 185.21 Manning, Robert Uzi
5 215.27 Grocox, Cain Uzi
6 242.42 Wendt, Robert MP5
7 252.13 Hill, Todd Max 11
8 270.38 Luettke, Brian MP5
9 270.68 Varner, Ed MP5
10 276.66 Bennett, Glenn M16
11 283.02 York, Clifton Uzi
12 290.38 Pandiscia, Brian M11
13 292.95 Callahan, Sean Max 10
14 303.98 Baillie, Joel MP5
15 308.53 Tannery, George MP5
16 329.51 McRoberts, Joe M16
17 330.36 Callahan, Scott Max 10
18 408.80 Bradley, Charlie Uzi
19 456.69 Callahan, Mike Thompson

Iron Sights
Place Score Shooter Gun
1 189.00 L, Todd Uzi
2 197.51 Emery, Bruce Max 11
3 223.07 Jackson, Garrett Max 11
4 223.10 Grocox, Cain Uzi
5 231.15 Varner, Ed MP40
6 234.10 McRoberts, Joe Berreta 38A
7 247.48 Baillie, Joel MP5
8 253.49 Tannery, George M3
9 275.08 Winters, Paul Thompson
10 297.78 Bradley, Charlie Uzi
11 305.34 Manning, Robert Uzi
12 307.88 Wendt, Robert MP5
13 311.11 Dorias, Jim Uzi
14 319.23 Bennett, Glenn Berreta 38A
15 342.45 Pandiscia, Brian M16
16 345.07 Callahan, Mike Thompson
17 349.42 Callahan, Scott MP5-40
18 358.52 Sheridan, Phil MP5
19 371.89 Weierstahl, Arndt Uzi
20 382.21 Callahan, Sean MP5-40

Female Shooters
Place Score Shooter Gun Class
1 293.94 Brown, Kathryn Berreta 38A Iron – FIRST PLACE WOMENS IRON
2 353.26 Bennett, Suzanne Berreta 38A Iron
3 415.45 Grocox, Amy Uzi Optic = FIRST PLACE WOMENS OPTIC
4 428.08 Zimmermann, Nancy Berreta 38A Iron
5 435.28 Grocox, Amy Uzi Iron
6 452.67 Bennett, Suzanne M16 Optic
7 504.32 Brown, Kathryn M16 Optic
8 656.90 Zimmermann, Nancy M16 Optic

More videos of the match can be found here

Manton MI Subgun Match – April 28th 2012

Due to this years Spring Knob Creek being canceled the folks in Manton MI have stepped up to the plate and they plan on putting on an event April 28th. The info is below.

Event Location
Action Shooting Sports
1872 North Road
Manton, MI 49663
231-824-6378
231-824-3179
kdnorman@yahoo.com, bruce.emery@ymail.com
Call or e-mail for directions or any questions (pre-registration not required)

There will be 2 divisions– Iron sights and Optics for each class of weapons Semi and Subgun

Match fee will be $20 for the first run, $15 for the second run, only the first run in a class will count in the standings.

4 or 5 stages, round count around 200+ per run, bring extra
Semi-auto shooters bring 150+ per run, bring extra

All subgun and carbine matches 380 and above pistol only.
No steel core, tracers, incendiary and armor piercing. Straight walled pistol caliber only no 30 carbine, 300 whisper ect.

Shooters are responsible for having all necessary NFA paperwork.

There will be a range to shoot other guns so bring some of your toys and have fun.