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Knob Creek Fall 2012 Results & Videos

The 2012 Knob Creek Subgun National competition is now completed. Richard Lage took top honors with his Max-31 in 125,76 seconds in the open bolt with optics class. Very few shooters were able to complete this course of fire without penalties. The bar has been set high by match Director Paul Winters for expectations on what to be prepared for at this bi-annual event. This course of fire challenged all who shot it and the videos tell the whole story much better than I ever could. Flying cans, no-shoot swinging targets and tiny targets at distance were only a few of the obstacles thrown at shooters during this event.


Last Name First Name Gun Class Score
1 Carrere Joyce Swedish K Open Bolt/Optic Sights 203.65
2 Bryant Robin MP5 Closed Bolt/Iron Sights 240.80
Carrere Joyce Swedish K Open Bolt/Iron Sights 249.66
Bryant Robin MP5 Closed Bolt/Optic Sights 250.53
3 Jordan Deb Uzi Open Bolt/Optic Sights 437.50
4 Grocox Amy Uzi Open Bolt/Optic Sights 545.40
Bryant Robin Sterling Open Bolt/Optic Sights 575.40
Bryant Robin Sterling Open Bolt/Iron Sights 999.00


Open Bolt/Optic Sights

Last Name First Name Gun Score
1 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 125.76 (TOP GUN)
2 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 145.96
3 Louis Todd Uzi 146.90
4 Allen Daniel Max 31 Lage 155.41
5 Sawyer Samantha M11 172.94
6 Tapar Paul Max 31 Lage 176.70
7 James Tom Uzi 181.76
8 Montgomery Ron Uzi 184.21
9 Carrere Joe, Sr Swedish K 184.31
10 Parker Jeremy Sterling Mark IV 188.82
11 White Joe M11 190.25
12 Ezendam Thomas Max 31 Lage 199.79
13 Sawyer MG Sterling 203.57
14 Hill Todd Max11K Lage 215.50
15 Hipes Austin Max 31 Lage 219.97
16 Laub Pete S&W 76 228.52
17 Phillips Chuck Sterling 229.50
18 Russell Jeff Swedish K 231.56
19 Baillie Joel Swedish K 234.48
20 Wiersbitzky Andreas Sterling 237.15
21 Ottoni Leo Swedish K 243.90
22 Tice George Swedish K 254.10
23 Emery Bruce Swedish K 265.98
24 Pandiscia Brian Max 11 Lage SWD 274.19
25 Asnip Andrew Sterling 290.63
26 Dunham Douglas Max 31 Lage 356.58
27 Grocox Cain Uzi 377.44
28 Bryant Robby Mac10 381.56
29 Crawford Ryan M11 388.10
30 Winthrop Michael Spitfire 416.55
31 Markovcy Mike Mac10 446.15
32 Mitchell Cameron BRP STG-34K 446.15
33 Schillig Edward Max 31 Lage DQ


Open Bolt/Iron Sights

Last Name First Name Gun Score
1 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 189.77
2 Holden JL Thompson 190.57
3 Markovcy Mike Uzi 198.72
4 Montgomery Ron Uzi 203.45
5 Louis Todd Uzi 209.08
6 Parker Jeremy Sterling 214.31
7 Phillips Chuck Sterling 216.55
8 James Tom Uzi 217.13
9 Hill Todd Max11K Lage 219.19
10 Sawyer MG Sten 220.72
11 Carpenter Tom Uzi 228.38
12 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 229.98
13 Kumer Mike M3 237.84
14 Baillie Joel Swedish K 242.89
15 Montgomery Andy Sterling 245.33
16 Reinhold Jim Uzi 251.45
17 Asnip Andrew Sterling 258.74
18 Mendenhall Monty Beretta 1938 275.41
19 Winthrop Michael Spitfire 276.85
20 Ottoni Leo Swedish K 286.00
21 Sawyer Samantha Port Said 288.68
22 Grocox Cain Uzi 290.80
23 Emery Bruce Swedish K 297.70
24 MacFarlane Robert Uzi 314.98
25 Carrere Joe, Sr Swedish K 315.38
26 Roberts CJ Sterling Mark IV 316.75
27 Childs Nick Thompson 316.91
28 Hipes Austin Max 31 Lage 318.14
29 Norman Dennis M11 319.84
30 Schillig Edward Max 31 Lage 320.20
31 Bryant Robby Sterling 320.42
32 Wiersbitzky Andreas Uzi 340.75
33 Dunham Douglas Max 31 Lage 346.07
34 Russell Jeff Swedish K 354.71
35 Laub Pete S&W 76 362.48
36 Allen Daniel Max 31 Lage 380.10
37 Ezendam Thomas Max 31 Lage 404.75
38 Callahan Michael Thompson 486.70
39 Winters Rick Thompson 28A1 699.73
40 Beck Jeff Beretta 38A 729:73
41 Crawford Ryan M11 729:74
42 Haynes Ken M11 729:75
43 Tice George Swedish K 729:76
44 Matthews Ronnie M11 AD
45 Kolodziej John M11 Soumi AD


Closed Bolt/Optic Sights

Last Name First Name Gun Score
1 Holden JL MP5 136.98
2 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 158.26
3 White Joe M11 Lage 163.96
4 Allen Daniel Max 31 Lage 165.98
5 Phillips Chuck MP5 171.94
6 Bryant Robby MP5 186.43
7 Carpenter Tom MP5 186.75
8 Sawyer MG M11 187.91
9 King Chase MP5 188.11
10 Parker Jeremy MP5 195.01
11 Reinhold Jim M16 211.88
12 Wiersbitzky Andreas MP5 212.25
13 Markovcy Mike MP5 213.48
14 Johnson Wes MP5 214.65
15 Ezendam Thomas Max 31 Lage 219.52
16 Luttke Brian MP5 232.99
17 Herber Mark MP5 236.40
18 Norman Dennis M16 247.81
19 Stowe Richard, Jr M16 252.30
20 James Tom MP5 255.91
21 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 258.14
22 Louis Todd MP5 259.56
23 Varner Ed MP5 263.94
24 Hipes Austin Max 31 Lage 266.20
25 Holden Terry MP5 280.50
26 Laub Pete M16 282.79
27 Erickson John M16 319.69
28 Stowe Richard M16 319.72
29 Baillie Joel MP5 328.94
30 Steedly George M16 374.80
31 Carrere Joe, Sr M16 591.65
32 Dunham Douglas Max 31 Lage 621.65
33 Emery Bruce Max 31 Lage 621.65
34 Hineline David M16 621.65
35 Tapar Paul Max 31 Lage 621.65
36 Winthrop Michael AR45 621.65
37 Sawyer Samantha Max 31 Lage AD


Closed Bolt/Iron Sights

Last Name First Name Gun Score
1 Carpenter Tom MP5 162.10
2 Parker Jeremy MP5 176.79
3 Markovcy Mike MP5 196.05
4 Norman Dennis M16 223.41
5 Lage Richard Max 31 Lage 223.42
6 Holden JL MP5 225.56
7 Herber Mark MP5 229.80
8 Phillips Chuck MP5 234.60
9 MacFarlane Robert MP5 248.85
10 James Tom MP5 259.04
11 Kumer Mike Reising 264.95
12 Sawyer Samantha Max 31 Lage 272.41
13 Wiersbitzky Andreas MP5 293.11
14 Roberts CJ MP5 299.02
15 Hipes Chris Max 31 Lage 308.40
16 Keith Davy MP5 324.44
17 King Chase MP5 330.08
18 Bryant Robby MP5 362.58
19 Dobbins Hugh MP5 376.44
20 Baillie Joel MP5 427.33
21 Carrere Joe, Sr M16 640.83
22 Allen Daniel Max 31 Lage 670.83
23 Emery Bruce Max 31 Lage 670.83
24 Hipes Austin Max 31 Lage 670.83
25 Steedly George M16 670.83
26 Winthrop Michael AR45 670.83
27 Dunham Douglas Max 31 Lage 670.83
28 Johnson Wes MP5 DQ
29 Sawyer MG M11 Lage DQ


Knob Creek Fall 2011 Vids & Results

Congratulations to everyone who competed and participated in putting on this amazing event. The results are below and the original result posting by Paul Winters can be seen here

Closed Bolt Iron

Place Last Name First Name Gun Caliber Score
1 Carpenter Tom MP5 9 133.38
2 Holden JL MP5 9 148.82
3 Herber Mark MP 5 9 154.47
4 Blaschik Andy MP 5 9 154.90
5 Louis Todd MP5 9 157.56
6 King Chase MP5 9 175.46
7 Markovcy Mike mp5 9 181.94
8 Samuel Alan MP5 9 187.79
9 Johnson Wes MP5 9 190.91
10 Phillips Chuck MP5 9 193.60
11 Kummer Mike Reising 45 198.72
12 Varner Ed MP40 9 201.99
13 Parker Jeremy M16 9 210.64
14 Bryant Robby MP5 9 221.63
15 Carrere Joe M16 9 222.27
16 McReynolds Jamie MP5 9 223.64
17 Hipes Austin Max 31 9 230.03
18 Petriy Alexey MP 5 9 235.52
19 Hipes Chris Max 31 247.69
20 Wintrop Mike AR 45 45 258.08
21 Pandiscia Brian BP 5 9 269.77
22 Wiersbitzky Andreas MP 5K 9 270.84
23 Krasnopolskiy Sergey M 16 9 295.08
24 Steedly George M16 9 320.41
25 Lankford Randy MP5 9 326.17
26 James Tom M16 9 368.06
27 Dunham Doug Reising 45 394.53
28 Angle Wade MP 5 9 449.88
Lage Richard MAX-31 9 AD
Jojola Geno MP5 9 DNF
Moldovan Phil MP 5K 9 DQ

Closed Bolt Optics

Place Last Name First Name Gun Caliber Score
1 Hipes Chris Max 31 128.14
2 Phillips Chuck MP5 9 144.75
3 McReynolds Jamie MP5 9 145.36
4 Blaschik Andy MP5 147.85
5 Holden JL MP5 40 164.62
6 Winters Paul M16 9 165.22
7 Lage Richard MAX-31 9 165.51
8 Wiersbitzky Andreas MP 5 9 169.00
9 Ezendam Thomas M16 9 174.79
10 Laub Pete M16 9 175.16
11 Varner Ed MP 5 9 175.51
12 Markovcy Mike mp5 9 178.71
13 Bryant Robby MP5 178.72
14 Herber Mark MP 5 182.38
15 Brown Lance MP5 9 189.82
16 Carrere Joe M16 9 196.33
17 Quinn Richard MP5 9 196.51
18 Reinhold Jim M 16 9 198.18
19 James Tom M16 9 207.71
20 Fraley Christopher MP5 9 209.24
21 Winthrop Mike AR 45 45 210.43
22 Edwards Jason M16 9 211.92
23 Hipes Austin max-31 212.52
24 King Chase MP5 9 213.43
25 Foley Michael .Colt 9 218.00
26 Wilson Scott MP 5 9 231.78
27 Krasnopolskiy Sergey Mp 5 9 233.47
28 Erickson John m16 9 234.34
29 Carpenter Tom MP5 9 235.50
30 Richardson Brad M 16 9 250.78
31 Steedly George M16 9 270.22
32 Ubelhor Jay MP5 9 289.40
33 Goryukhin Ruslan MP5 9 297.01
34 Wolfe Russell MP5 9 320.24
35 Lankford Randy MP5 9 342.59
36 Dunham Doug Reising 45 368.49
37 Johnson Wes MP5 9 494.60
Bingham John MP5 9 DQ
Parker Jeremy M16 9 DQ
Louis Todd MP5 9 DQ

Open Bolt Iron

Place Last Name First Name Gun Caliber Score
1 Blaschik Andy beretta pm12s 9 143.92
2 Parker Jeremy Sterling 9 150.49
3 Lage Richard MAX-31A 9 163.72
4 Kummer Mike MP40 9 165.49
5 Louis Todd uzi 179.62
6 Hipes Chris Max 31 9 182.76
7 Phillips Chuck sterling 9 183.08
8 Montgomery Andy Sterling 9 183.32
9 Carpenter Tom Uzi 9 188.74
10 Montgomery Ron Uzi 9 191.35
11 Winthrop Michael Spitfire 45 192.31
12 Baillie Joel MP5 9 192.34
13 Asnip Andrew Sterling 9 193.04
14 Holden JL Thompson 45 197.20
15 Tice George Sterling 9 205.80
16 Markovcy Mike Uzi 9 207.59
17 Russell Jeff Swedish K 9 209.15
18 Hipes Austin Uzi 9 211.31
19 Sawyer MG Sten 9 215.15
20 Grocox Cain Uzi 9 222.58
21 Wiersbitzky Andreas Sterling 9 224.62
22 Norman Dennis M10 45 230.15
23 James Tom Thompson 232.13
24 Baillie Joel Swedish K 9 240.03
25 Beck Jeff berreta 38a 9 247.57
26 Montgomery Dustin Thompson 45 249.16
27 Bingham John Swedish K 9 249.47
28 Saylors David Sten 9 270.25
29 Albert David Thompson 45 275.89
30 Dunham Doug Sterling 9 289.93
31 Krasnopolskiy Sergey Uzi 9 291.49
32 Pandiscia Brian max 10 45 322.13
33 Winters Rick L2A3 9 338.22
34 Petriy Petriy Uzi 9 338.60
35 Hevia Artnro uzi 9 356.86
36 Lankford Randy Uzi 9 365.30
37 Ezendam Thomas Uzi 9 374.84
38 Callahan Michael Thompson 45 466.94
39 Thomas John uzi 9 469.88
Emery Bruce Mac 11 DQ

Open Bolt Optics

Place Last Name First Name Gun Caliber Score
1 Louis Todd uzi 9 121.65 TOP GUN
2 Blaschik Andy berreta pm12 123.71
3 Lage Richard MAX-31A 9 136.34
4 Sawyer MG Sterling MK4 9 144.16
5 Parker Jeremy Sterling 9 165.73
6 Ezendam Thomas Sterling 9 169.26
7 Montgomery Ron Uzi 9 171.62
8 Grocox Cain Uzi 9 178.08
9 Petriy Alexey Sterling 9 182.39
10 James Tom Thompson 190.60
11 Krasnopolskiy Sergey Sterling 9 191.21
12 Hipes Chris Max-31 9 197.56
13 Crawford Ryan Max 11 9 198.83
14 Baillie Joel Swedish K 9 202.97
15 Norman Dennis Max-10 45 202.99
16 Laub Pete S&W76 208.41
17 Hipes Austin uzi 9 208.73
18 White Joe M 11 9 209.86
19 Baillie Joel MP5 9 217.93
20 Tice George Swedish K 9 220.10
21 Asnip Andrew Sterling 9 232.98
22 Hineline David uzi 9 237.51
23 Russell Jeff Swedish K 9 239.14
24 Phillips Chuck sterling 9 254.55
25 Winthrop Michael Spitfire 261.14
26 Goryukhin Roslan Sterling 9 261.71
27 Dunham Doug Lage mac 10 45 264.29
28 Thomas John Uzi 9 278.43
29 Lankford Randy Uzi 9 282.92
30 Russell Brady Swedish K 9 288.56
31 Angle Wade Sterling 9 303.89
32 Markovcy Mike Uzi 9 309.22
33 Hevia Artnro Uzi 9 310.11
Pandiscia Brian TASK M 11 9 AD
Wiersbitzky Andreas Uzi 9 AD
Bryant Robby Mac 10 45 DNF
Stogsdill Rodney tech 9 9 DNF
Emery Bruce Max-11 9 DNF
Seto Lance Sterling 9 DQ

Ladies Division

Place Last Name First Name Gun Caliber Class Time
1 Sawyer Samantha Port Said 9 Open Bolt/Iron Sights 191.74
2 Carrere Joyce Port Said 9 Open Bolt/Optic Sights 194.00
Sawyer Samantha TASK M 11 9 Open Bolt/Optic Sights 200.30
3 Bryant Robin MP5 9 Closed Bolt/Optic Sights 203.74
Carrere Joyce Port Said 9 Open Bolt/Iron Sights 227.41
4 Jordan Deb Uzi 9 Open Bolt/Optic Sights 268.97
5 Smith Ashley Port Said 9 Open Bolt/Optic Sights 326.72
Bryant Robin Mac 10 45 Open Bolt/Optic Sights 361.98
Bryant Robin MP5 9 Closed Bolt/Iron Sights 406.39
Davies Roxanne Sterling 9 Open Bolt/Iron Sights DQ

Shoot Smarter, Not Harder

In June 2004 I was introduced to the sport of submachine gun competitions by a friend. I was instantly hooked  and  I fell in love with the sport that very first day. Since then I have traveled the country attending and shooting in sub-machine gun competitions ranging from small local matches in Florida to multiple day events such as the Indiana State Subgun Championship  and the Knob Creek subgun nationals. During these events I have noticed, that like many other sports,  there are a handful of competitors who usually dominate the top ranks  and that  many of those competitors apply similar techniques to help them succeed.

In this article I will discuss a few techniques and fundamental principals that help many of the top competitors shoot smoother and  smarter to give them their competitive advantage. These techniques are not hard to learn and anyone can successfully apply these principals  with practice and discipline.

Shooting Posture

Squared shooting stance
Two examples of a squared shooting stance. The left is more erect posture and the right is more aggressive and bent at the knees.

A sub-machine gun competitor’s shooting posture seems to be the most important factor in the amount of muzzle rise felt  after each shot breaks. With very few exceptions, the majority of sub-machine guns seem to handle best when  shot with the shooter “squared to the target” so the chest of the shooter is facing directly at the target. The feet are a shoulders width apart and the dominant foot is moved  back  slightly. The shooters feet and chest should face  toward the target. For pistol shooters, this posture  is very similar to a isosceles shooting stance in regards to body position toward the target. The elbows are tucked in by rotating them down so they are  not sticking out  to the side in what is sometimes referred to as  “chicken winging”.

Chicken Winging vs Elbows down
“Chicken Wing” on the left and Elbows down on the right

One of the largest benefits  of this stance is that when a shooter is squared  up and firing, the recoil travels into the  arms evenly distributing it across the upper body. The entire body is then able to act as a  giant shock absorber dampening the recoil  experienced with each shot as the force is more evenly distributed.  Muzzle rise can be greatly reduced when shooting with this posture which allows the shooter to get the sights  back on subsequent targets faster.

When a shooter stands bladed (support or “weak” shoulder closest to target) while shooting a subgun, recoil often pushes more on the side where the firearm stock is causing rotation of the upper torso. This causes the muzzle to rise up and move over to the right or left  and as a result the competitor has to move the gun more to get the sights on to the next target. The competitor then ends up fighting the gun after each shot which in turn causes wasted movement and energy. Over longer courses of fire this extra movement can lead to fatigue as well as time lost. This time lost may not seem like much for engaging one or two targets but it can quickly add when dealing with larger courses of fire or multiple stages.  Half a second extra on fifty targets just put you twenty-five seconds in the hole and out of contention.

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Left: Bladed stance – Right: Bladed stance moving toward camera. Imagine trying to move away from camera with this stance.

Another advantage of this shooting posture is the ability of  the shooter to move easily in any direction. This stance also allows for a broader field of view on each side of the target as opposed to a bladed stance where the  shooter can not see what is beyond their support shoulder which could be their direction of travel.

The few exceptions to shooting squared up are those firearms  with long stocks or other design features that  make handling them when in a squared position hard to do. Some competitors feel the Swedish K, Thompson, and Beretta 38 fall into this category due to their longer stocks. This is of course dependent on the shooter and how the gun fits them.

Cheek Weld

A proper cheek weld
A proper cheek weld

Another important part of a proper shooting posture is a good solid “cheek weld”.  A cheek weld is where the shooters cheek rests on the stock of the firearm when shooting.  A good cheek weld  is when the stock and cheek come together at the same place each and every time giving you a clear view of the sights.  A good cheek weld  should feel natural and unforced.

When at the range ask a friend to watch your cheek weld when you are firing a three to five round burst. Your cheek should not come off the stock while shooting. A common problem is that competitors  will mount an optic or modify their firearm in a way which causes them to put their cheek and head  in an unnatural position to be able to view their sights.  This is fine for plinking in the back yard with friends but due to the unnatural position the head has to be in to get a sight picture, it is very hard to consistently sustain this posture in competition, especially on longer courses of fire or when having to shoot bursts.


tick… tock… tick… tock… Merriam Webster dictionary defines cadence as “the beat, time, or measure of rhythmical motion or activity” . When shooting multiple targets lined up together it helps to find your rhythm through the targets and to keep with it. For example if you had a plate rack with 6 plates on it once you start shooting them your cadence should be unbroken. If you hit the first target and miss the second, don’t re-shoot the one you missed, keep the rhythm and continue on to the third target and others until you get to the end… only pick up your missed shots after you finished the rest in that array.

Don’t Wait

Going hand in hand with your cadence is the notion that you don’t wait for your target to fall before shooting the next one.   You  should not care if the target  falls when shooting it unless the course of fire specifies otherwise.   If it did fall, great, if it didn’t you’ll pick it up when you finish the rest of the targets in order as stated in the cadence section. Your focus should be on your sights and the target, the trigger pull and then on to the NEXT target the second the bullet leaves the barrel. Once the shot breaks, get on to the next target as smoothly as possible. It’s just a mental thing so if you fix your mind and your bullets will follow.

It’s a Submachine Gun, Shoot It Like One!

Repeat after me, “It is OK to shoot more than one round on a target”. Your gun is capable of putting multiple  rounds down range at a time with ONE trigger pull. Many competitors have gotten used to the old notion that being a good subgun shooter meant they could fire single shots from their gun while it was in full auto mode. Courses of fire seemed to cater to this notion and in the end the winner of the “submachine gun competition” was the person who could shoot their gun like a semi-auto the best. It seems kind of silly in retrospect but that’s how things progressed for a while and they have now come a full 180 degrees back in the other direction. Some event coordinators are now seeking out targets that urge the competitors to use their firearm as intended. We are now back to celebrating the uniqueness of our firearms at each competition in brilliant bursts down range.

Lets suppose you are faced with a hard set target such as a heavy set pepper popper like those seen at the recent Knob Creek competitions. LET IT RIP!!! Some shooters seem to need to be given permission to send a burst of full auto fire down range. Why? I  have no idea, but if you need it I give you permission to let loose.  Go ahead…  SHOOT THE HELL OUT OF IT.  If your posture and grip are solid and your sights are on target you can put enough rounds where you need to neutralize any target in one trigger pull.

I sometimes practice shooting a single, double, triple, quadruple and then a 5 round burst one after another. A good drill to hone this skill as well as trigger control is to have a shooting buddy yell out the number of shots you need to put on the target so it’s a surprise. “Four!” … “two!”… “three”.  This drill is a lot of fun on a steel plate or three at 10 or 15 yards. To mix it up a bit, paint a few targets different colors and have your buddy say a color and a number of rounds, “Yellow three, blue two!”. This drill is both fun and it will help sharpen your skill set.

One example I can find that demonstrates a decent cadence, not waiting for targets to fall and shooting doubles and triples when needed is from the 2007 Indiana State Subgun match. This video is of the author and to date this is one of my better performances on any single stage.  It’s not perfect but it worked out for me on this day. It ended up being the fastest time on this stage for the match.



Is That The Dalai Llama Meditating Over There?

You missed it by this much!

It’s the big day of the competition and  you’ve paid your match entry fee, you’ve practiced your skills  and put together a game plan for success . You have  a lot invested in this opportunity and you can feel the pre-run anxiety and it’s almost getting the better of you. Part of you just wants it to all be over and as you’re at the starting position and the range officer says “is the shooter ready?” you start to say YES…..

STOP RIGHT THERE!!!  Your answer should be “No, please  give me a moment” but too often the shooter says “Yes, shooter is ready”. Why?  Nerves, anxiety and stress.   This is one of those few times in life you are absolutely entitled and encouraged to be selfish.  This is YOUR run. You paid to shoot this match and within reason you are allowed as much time as you need to focus yourself and to push the nerves down and get your mind in the game. I’ve never seen or heard of a range officer  telling a competitor to “hurry up and shoot” before a run.

This moment is  your time  so find your “happy place” and do what you have to do to calm down and focus. Only tell the range officer you are ready when you are truly ready.  Once that buzzer goes beep there is no turning back so don’t sabotage yourself by rushing and ruining your  best chance for success.  I often  tell the range officer  to hold on for a moment while I close my eyes and  take a deep breath. I then  open my eyes and go over the course of fire target by target right then and there in my head.  It usually takes only a few  seconds and then I give the nod… *BEEP* Game on… You have to find what works best for you but the top competitors in all sports are able to either subdue or harness their pre-run anxiety into focus. Find what works for you and stick with it!

Focus Young Jedi

As stated earlier we all get nervous and a bit of pre-run anxiety, it’s only natural. Murphy’s law says at the least opportune time things can, and will, go wrong.  I suspect Murphy was one of the first  subgun competitors. The simple fact is that chances are you will run into something unexpected after the timer goes *BEEP*. You drop a magazine, your gun goes click when it should go bang, double feed, fail to extract, fail to eject, smoke in the eyes,  malfunctions, malfunctions, malfunctions…. The difference between the top competitors and the rest of the pack is that when something bad happens, they focus on the fastest solution to the problem and move on.

Some people talk to themselves  or the range officer when things go wrong. Some people swear and elongate curses at the gun or magazine in question. “Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn it” or “Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee hell!” seem to pop up  a lot along with one I still spit out in cases of frustration “you’ve gotta beeee KIDDING ME”. Guess what your brain isn’t doing when you are talking? It isn’t focused on the problem at hand. It is however giving the range officer and score keeper some free entertainment as the clock ticks along.  Clear the problem , safely and quickly and do it right the first time. Too often competitors watch their entire game plan go down in flames because they allowed a minor issue such as a dropped magazine or failure to eject turn into a long drawn out series of mistakes.  Sometimes the winner is the person who cleared a malfunction the fastest and got back on track and often  the losers are the people who gave up or were overcome by frustration. forum member HkShooter swearing in German after forgetting dummy at the Knob Creek Nationals. You might also notice the slightly bladed shooting stance.


To this day I still stand in awe of  competitor CJ Roberts who,  at the 2008 Indiana State Subgun Championship,  had a very odd malfunction with his full size Uzi. He tried all of the usual techniques for clearing the malfunction to no avail. So what did he do? He showed the gun clear to the range officer and disassembled  the gun right then and there looking for the problem. He  popped off the top cover,  pulled the bolt and  found and removed  a mutilated piece of brass that was causing the issue, and he then reassembled and finished his run.  CJ  didn’t win a trophy for that run but he did manage to finish in the middle of the pack and taught those in attendance a valuable lesson. Keep your eye on the prize and never give up.

Watch CJ’s run below.

Where In The Hell Am I Hitting?

Everything else means nothing if you can’t  hit what you are aiming at. Although subguns come with varying zeros from the factory many top competitors zero their firearms at 25 yards. The reason for this is that the change in point of aim and point of impact is going to be very small between 7yards  and 50 yards with a 25 yard zero. At closer distances your point of impact will be lower than your point of aim due the offset of the sights from the barrel. It is your responsibility as a competitor to know how your point of impact will change at different distances. Go to the range, confirm your zero and then shoot at the same spot on a paper target from point blank out to 40 yards in 10 yard increments.

The truth be told where you zero your gun doesn’t matter as long as you can accurately engage all the targets on any given course of fire. As of the time of this article being written the current courses of fire have targets from point blank range to 40 yards out depending on the event. Paul Winters who coordinates the Knob Creek National match has been known from time to time to stick a target out in the 30-40 yard range on occasion to mix things up.

You may want to ask yourself if  you can you hit the head of a pepper popper at thirty yards with the first shot  and then  put two rounds through  a three inch circle at two yards? If you can say yes to them both then you should have no problem hitting everything in between.

Open Bolt Guns: Open bolt guns should be zeroed standing using your natural  shooting stance. Due to the “bolt lurch” in many open bolt sub guns if you zero them while on a bench or supported the point of aim point of impact will be off when shot from a non supported  position. Bolt lurch is the shooter feeling the movement of the bolt traveling the length of the receiver when firing.

Closed bolt guns can be zeroed from a bench or supported position.

Sight in with both open and closed bolt guns should be done in semi-auto mode if available and you should remember to follow through with the trigger (hold the trigger to the rear after each shot, don’t bounce it) if possible. There are a handful of guns that do not have semi-auto mode but their rate of fire is usually slow enough that there really is no need for one.

I hope these observations lend a little insight into some of the techniques and tactics being used by the top competitors in this wonderful sport. The best advice I was ever given about shooting was to “do what works best for you”. We are all different shapes,sizes and shooters. Sometimes old dogs do better with old tricks. Find what works best for you and practice it. Sometimes we need to start all over to break bad habits and sometimes we just need to stick with what’s always worked regardless of the current trends or new innovations. Only you know you. Be honest with yourself in regards to  your performance and your ability.

There is much more discuss  on this topic but for now  this is a good starting point. I look forward to seeing you at one of the many great subgun competitions going on across the country every month. Shoot safe and smooth and share your sport ! -Todd


Subgun Trophy


Michigan State Subgun 2011

The 2011 Michigan State Subgun Championships were a success. Below are some videos from the event

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Congratulations to all the competitors for braving the challenging courses of fire.
Complete results by Stage can be viewed at here

Mens Optic Sights

Place Score Shooter Gun
1 144.21 Emery, Bruce Mac 11
2 156.50 Winters, Paul Thompson
3 157.73 Hill, Todd Max11
4 167.89 Louis, Todd Uzi
5 169.74 Stevens, Clayt Max11
6 197.28 Dorias, Jim Uzi
7 203.38 Varner, Ed MP5
8 208.40 Baillie, Joel MP5
9 222.40 York, Clif Max11
10 226.07 Manning, Bob Uzi
11 226.76 Callahan, Sean Uzi
12 242.03 Pandiscia, Brian M11
13 246.19 Bradley, Charles Uzi
14 246.64 Grocox, Cain Uzi
15 249.01 McRoberts, Joe M16
16 259.77 Selonke, Kris M16
17 268.65 Stevens, Karl Max11
18 271.46 Bennett, Glenn M16
19 288.94 Guffey, Grant Max11
20 299.57 McCarthy, Tobin Sterling
21 362.65 Winters, Neal M16

Mens Iron Sights
Place Score Shooter Gun
1 123.31 Louis, Todd Uzi
2 165.33 Grocox, Cain Uzi
3 178.72 Dorias, Jim Uzi
4 200.37 Baillie, Joel MP5
5 211.15 Varner, Ed MP40
6 220.66 Manning, Bob Uzi
7 222.13 Stevens, Karl Max11
8 225.53 Emery, Bruce Mac 11`
9 227.25 Tannery, George M3
10 245.53 Bradley, Charles Uzi
11 249.50 Tannery, George FUN RUN
12 253.86 Bennett, Glenn M3
13 256.08 Guffey, Grant Max11
14 276.48 Callahan, Sean Max10
15 303.90 Pandiscia, Brian Thompson
16 305.40 Selonke, Kris Beretta 38A
17 339.17 Sheridan, Phil MP5
18 385.14 McRoberts, Joe Beretta 38A
19 417.03 Sheridan, Phil FUN RUN
20 445.25 Reed, Rob FUN RUN
21 506.74 Reed, Rob Uzi

Ladies Optic Sight
Place Score Shooter Gun
1 306.99 Bennett, Suzanne MP5
2 372.12 Zimmerman, Nancy M16
3 376.49 Selonke, Julie M16
4 398.91 Brown, Kat M16

Ladies Iron Sight

Place Score Shooter Gun
1 283.70 Bennett, Suzanne M3
2 352.51 Brown, Kat Beretta 38A
3 413.97 Zimmerman, Nancy Beretta 38A
4 436.57 Selonke, Julie Beretta 38A

Knob Creek Spring 2011 Results + Video

Closed Bolt/Iron Sights

Place Score Shooter Gun
1 141.25 Blaschik, Andy MP5
2 151.27 Phillips, Chuck MP5
3 156.32 McReynolds, Jamie MP5
4 168.43 Parker, Jeremy M16
5 171.25 Herber, Mark MP5
6 171.29 Carpenter, Tom MP5
7 171.38 Holden, JL MP5
8 184.31 King, Chase MP5
9 196.89 Dobbins, Hugh MP5
10 230.99 Bryant, Robby MP5
11 237.59 Mohler, Mark MP5
12 238.74 Johnson, Wes MP5
13 253.09 James, Tom M16
14 255.1 Goodwin, Ed MP5
15 261.36 Carrere, Joe M16
16 270.56 Baillie, Joel MP5
17 275.43 Winters, Paul M16
18 276.21 Ezendam, Thomas M16
19 286.84 Essling, Bill M16
20 342.85 Wiersbitzky, Andreas MP5 SD
21 346.36 Steedly, George M16
22 384.64 Darnell, Bob MP5
23 389.24 Kummer, Mike Reising
24 469.98 Winthrop, Mike AR 45
25 497.9 Smith, Frank M16
26 545.5 Angle, Wade MP5
27 666.58 Geeve, Lambertino M16

DNF Dunham, Douglas Reising

DNF Winthrop, Mike Spitfire

DQ Crenshaw, Dustin MP5

Closed Bolt/Optic Sights
Place Score Shooter Gun
1 119.82 McReynolds, Jamie MP5
2 128.22 Parker, Jeremy M16
3 129.31 Blaschik, Andy MP5
4 131.16 Carpenter, Tom MP5
5 158.54 Holden, JL MP5
6 160.71 Laub, Pete M16
7 174.7 Herber, Mark MP5
8 181.62 King, Chase MP5
9 208.01 Varner, Ed MP5
10 212.95 Kennedy, Clark Sterling MK IV
11 213.49 Phillips, Chuck MP5
12 213.77 Damazo, Lane MP5
13 223.45 Wiersbitzky, Andreas MP5
14 228.69 Bryant, Robby MP5
15 232.81 Levin, Ryan MP5
16 236.99 Steedly, George M16
17 246.43 Johnson, Wes MP5
18 260.33 Mohler, Mark MP5
19 288.14 Ezendam, Thomas M16
20 288.73 Winthrop, Mike AR 45
21 297.78 Stowe, Richard A M16
22 304.9 James, Tom M16
23 312.59 Carrere, Joe M16
24 327.86 Richardson, Brad M16
25 360.46 Crenshaw, Justin M16
26 421.69 Wolfe, Russell MP5
27 453.83 Seger, Steve MP5
28 489.01 York, Clifton MP5
29 516.56 Reed, Mike MP5
30 579.27 Essling, Bill M16

DNF Baillie, Joel MP5

DQ Stowe, Richard Jr M16

Open Bolt/Iron Sights
Place Score Shooter Gun
1 138.86 Blaschik, Andy Beretta PM12
2 140.34 Lage, Richard Max-31A
3 145.97 Phillips, Chuck Sterling
4 167.49 Sneed, Randy Thompson
5 171.08 Emery, Bruce Mac 11
6 171.49 Montgomery, Dustin Thompson
7 178.8 Russel, Jeff Swedish K
8 182.26 Parker, Jeremy Sterling
9 183.07 Holden, JL Thompson
10 191.4 Mendenhall, Monty Beretta M38A
11 193.7 Montgomery, Ron UZI
12 201.13 McKown, Tony Uzi
13 201.75 Tapar, Paul Max11
14 201.76 Carrere, Joe Port Said
15 202.91 Carpenter, Tom UZI
16 209.55 James, Tom Thompson
17 210.76 Kummer, Mike MP 40
18 220.81 Grocox, Cain Uzi
19 240.5 Stevens, Clayt Max11
20 243.35 Sawyer, MG Sten Mk5
21 257.75 Varner, Ed MP 40
22 264.1 Kummer, Thomas MP40
23 264.2 Baillie, Joel Swedish K
24 266.36 Stevens, Karl Max11
25 277.45 Tice, George Swedish K
26 285.19 Asnip, Andrew Sterling
27 307.41 Bosio, John Uzi
28 325.06 Record, Russell Thompson
29 326.09 Wiersbitzky, Andreas Uzi
30 332.75 Dobbins, Hugh Thompson
31 381.67 Wampler, Andrew Uzi
32 389.11 Ottoni, Leo Swedish K
33 394.54 Crawford, Ryan Mac 11
34 408 project management free.74 Mohler, Mark Max11
35 426.08 Dunham, Douglas Sterling
36 486.1 Ezendam, Thomas Uzi
37 553.79 Norman, Dennis Mac 10

DNF Mongomery, Andy Sterling

DNF Matthews, Ronnie M11

DNF Ejzak, Larry Uzi

DNF Brunberg, David UZI

DNF Metcalf, Greg S&W 76

DNF Haynes, Ken M11

DNF Kennedy, Clarck Sterling

DQ Beck, Jeff Berretta M38

Open Bolt/Optic Sights
Place Score Shooter Gun
1 109.75 Blaschik, Andy Beretta PM12 TOP GUN
2 127.36 Parker, Jeremy Sterling
3 129.23 Phillips, Chuck Sterling MK IV
4 156.65 Montgomery, Ron UZI
5 156.92 Lage, Richard Max-31A
6 161.81 Stevens, Clayt Max11
7 162.78 Laub, Pete Smith 76
8 166.34 Carrere, Joe Port Said
9 168.12 Ottoni, Leo Swedish K
10 174.29 Tapar, Paul Max11
11 178.68 Winthrop, Mike Spitfire
12 185.1 Ezendam, Thomas Thompson
13 187.56 Norman, Dennis Mac 10
14 191.73 Mendenhall, Monty M11
15 203.6 James, Tom Thompson
16 205.49 Bosio, John Uzi
17 216.24 Dobbins, Hugh Uzi
18 240.84 Baillie, Joel Swedish K
19 245.51 Tice, George Swedish K
20 245.78 Wiersbitzky, Andreas Uzi
21 264.16 Stevens, Karl Max11
22 273.48 Bryant, Robby Smith
23 292.03 York, Clifton Max11
24 302.27 Crawford, Ryan Mac 11
25 344.53 Emery, Bruce Mac 11
26 352.62 Mohler, Mark Max11
27 398.01 Eads, Tony M11
28 419.43 Herber, Mark Uzi
29 444.97 Mccarthy, Tobin Sterling MK IV
30 557.36 Dunham, Douglas Max10

DNF Russel, Jeff Swedish K

DNF Pandesia, Brian Task M11

DNF Patty, Al Stemple 76

DQ Sawyer, MG Sterling

DQ Angel, Curtis Mac 10

Female Shooters
Place Score Shooter Gun Class
1 162.35 Sawyer, Samantha M11 Open Bolt/Optic Sights
2 219.15 Carrere, Joyce Swedish K Open Bolt/Optic Sights

247.62 Carrere, Joyce Uzi Open Bolt/Iron Sights
3 328.16 Jordan, Deb Uzi Open Bolt/Optic Sights
4 331.12 Parker, Marcey M16 Closed Bolt/Optic Sights
5 400.47 Blaschik, Caroline MP5 Closed Bolt/Iron Sights

402.36 Blaschik, Caroline Sterling MK IV Open Bolt/Iron Sights
6 458.05 Tapar, Gladys Max11 Open Bolt/Optic Sights

489.32 Blaschik, Caroline MP5 Closed Bolt/Optic Sights
7 621.58 Davies, Roxanne Sterling Open Bolt/Iron Sights

DNF Sawyer, Samantha Port Said Open Bolt/Iron Sights

DNF Blaschik, Caroline Sterling Open Bolt/Optic Sights