Rambling is good, it allows others an opportunity to learn from you and also opens the floor! Compared to the early 90s it’s rare to hear from a new smg competitive shooter anymore. “F/A mag dump” is what it takes to make a great smg f/a only match string. I believe your friends may have the upper hand on you at this point, when it comes to f/a string set-ups, if you don’t practice your “controlled” f/a mag dumps! If the old style f/a match shooting is on it’s way back (really cool) you will use most of a 30rd mag in most f/a strings. So stomp on it and make it count.

Todd,
I will definetly see you next month. The boss (wife) has already given me the OK.

Hot Lead Zapper,
You are absolutly right. I think some of my thing with the short bursts is most of my FA shooting was done when I worked at Interarms and we had a small opening on our trap so I never had the opertunity to practice full mag dumps without hitting the outside of the trap. Once I get a little more comfortable with my Uzi and the sport I will work on controlled mag dumps.

Richard

I don’t know what kind of target & prop resources that may be available to you, but if you were like the rest of us starting out it would be none. So I would use clays placed on the backstop berm until you are able to make your own or membership at a range that provides targets & props. Malabar is a great and safe range to practice f/a mag dumps.

Buy a second Uzi barrel for competition shooting in modern and open class. I’d used a semi 16.5” cut down to 12.5” to have room for EDM barrel porting with a comp. 10.2 barrel will work, but if you add a comp it doesn’t allow much room for porting, some but not enough. 12.5” or more with comp and ports, you will be able to shoulder your smg with “one” hand and shoot an f/a mag dump into an IPSC paper target at 40yds without a miss! Use both hands and you will be able to write your name on that IPSC paper target! The same ideal works for Mini Uzi as well with a 9.5” barrel comp and ported.

This ideal will do a better job placing smaller f/a groups compared to all suppressors systems on today’s market, because of the nature of the 115gr projectiles vs. 147/158gr projectiles leaving the muzzle, can or no can. In a true f/a match it's all about muzzle control and some trigger. In a SA style shooting smg match it's mostly about the trigger.

Stock or factory classes just replace the 10.2” or 7.5” plain barrel and go to it.

Uzi does it

Hey Richard,

To answer you original question, people play to win the game at hand. If a metal plate falls with one round, then that is what you try to do, if you can with the selector on full. The more ammo you conserve, the fewer reloads needed and the less delay performing mag changes. That is the challenge for match directors, to make it a full auto course. Strides are being made and the game is changing. When I was a wee lad many years ago, the NFA nationals were held at Port Malabar and the shots were tight. How about a 5" shoot plate with a paper no-shoot right behind it. At that time, I worked at slowing my M16/9 down to be able to make single taps to play that type of game. That was then and now your gun is gonna get hot in the new world. The key as stated before is control, but not only on the first round. Since it is a bullethose (nice name) think about using the second round by holding the rounds tight or by pulling the round onto the next location. Practice on paper and you will get a feel for pull and round impact change. Todd is too kind, but the hammer time target quest is on.

Paul : -)#

Sounds like the a nice stage name

Hi,

I'll have to dig around the containers and get some pictures of some of the home made short presentation targets. Two that come to mind are:

An IPSC paper target on a pivoting frame. The frame has a sand bag at the base that launches the target to vertical when tripped by a popper. Sand bag falls off and target goes down. This can be made frome about 4 2x4 studs and a screw gun in a few minutes. Sandbags are harder to make. These are especially fun in a blind stage as they can be hidden. If someone is playing the selector game they will likely drop these targets.


Another consists of a falling plate that trips a stage just to the right of the falling plate. It's hard to describe but the falling plate opens a window that presents a 3' x 2' area where other targets can be placed. The window is only open for about 1 second and then closes with a no-shoot. Normally 2 falling plates are put in the window & normally I only take down 1 of the 2 plates.

These targets help promote F/A fire.

Grasshopper

The old NFA had a target just like that. It was a barricade with a plate on a shelf. When the plate fell a window would open for about a second and show two plates and the window would close with no-shoots on the door. It was a challenge. At the KCR match we have been setting large poppers at 2.5 lbs checked with a scale that makes a burst a necessity for them to fall. We also have designed abd built 'z-plates' which are very heavy and sit on special stands that also need multiple hits t fall. Hit em low and the only thing that happens is....well, nothing. Always trying to think of new full auto arrays.

Paul : -)#

Hi Paul,

Funny you mention "like the old NFA" as it was an old NFA guy that built the reactive targets I'm using.

Grasshopper